This is in response to Rudy Phan's critic of TVI Express critics, as posted on his website.
Rudy Phan claims there are three reasons for people to criticize TVI Express. I will take apart his three reasons, and perhaps supply a few reasons of my own on why he continues to lie for TVI Express.
Rudy's Why People Criticize TVI #1: They have ulterior motives
According to Rudy, people who criticize TVI Express either already have their mind made up, and thus is expressing opinion without supporting fact, or they have other motives such as promoting some other MLM.
Well, Rudy, what exactly is the evidence supporting your claims here? Since you didn't name any evidence at all, didn't you just commit the exact same offense that you accuse others of doing? What sort of idiocy are you trying to spread here?
This is also "dishonest tactic #3: questioning the motives of the opponent"
Rudy's Why People Criticize TVI #2: They don't understand us
According to Rudy, any criticism of TVI Express is due to misunderstanding, and unwillingness to understand TVI Express. He claims that eWallet can be used to buy cars and things, and talking with skeptics is just waste of time, as their mind is closed.
Well, Rudy, sounds like YOUR mind is closed to even the POSSIBILITY that the system is a scam. Even if one or two members can redeem their eWallet for a car, it means nothing to the rest of people with their own eWallets. That's a false cause-and-effect argument. That's the beauty of pyramid scheme: use the first few who did cash out as bait for the rest. What do you have to say to that? How about explain WHY TVI Express is NOT a pyramid scheme, with something more concrete than "you don't understand us"?
This is a use of dishonest debate tactic #2: chaging the subject.
Rudy's Why People Criticize TVI #3: They don't think like us
According to Rudy, any criticism of TVI Express stems from the way people think, and the way you think depends on which Cashflow Quadrant (tm) you are in, according to Robert Kiyosaki (yes, I read the book too). According to Rudy, TVI Express members are E (employee) trying to cross over to B (business owner), while the critics are E folks living in fear and cannot comprehend B quadrant thinking.
Well, Rudy, I am criticizing TVI Express, and I run three companies (owner of two) and a dozen employees under me. That blows your hypothesis out of the water. It is basically same as #2: they don't understand us.
Besides, what sort of a business can TVI Express be if you only sell something to somebody ONCE? Any real business knows the trick is REPEAT customers. No repeat customers, no business.
And one more thing: do you really take Robert Kiyosaki to be an honest man? He had given bad advice in several of his books before, and he had thrown out so many versions of who is Rich Dad that he eventually admitted that Rich Dad does not really exist, but is a composite of multiple people he knew. I admit some of this books are interesting reading, but you should not take everything he says as "fact".
Again, this is use of dishonest debate tactics #2: changing the subject. Instead of explaining, he simply dismisses everything as "they don't think like us, they don't understand us".
Rudy's Why People Criticize TVI #4: Both sides are fanatical
Rudy Phan claims he wants logical common sense discussion regarding the issues.
What he doesn't explain is why Rudy Phan not making any sense.
In Reason #1 he claims critics already have their own minds made up and argue without reason, but he supplied no evidence for his own argument. This is known as a "tu quoque" fallacy. It is "pot calling the kettle black".
In reason #2 the "they don't understand us" argument is a very common fallacy used by various scams and deniers to deny truths. It has been used by holocaust deniers, creationists (i.e. evolution deniers), and various religious zealots for their own causes. Instead of explaining what was misunderstood, a blanket statement was issued, as if it explains everything.
Same in reason #3.
In Reason #4 he calls for reason when he's the one not being reasonable. Opponent cited facts, not opinions. Rudy Phan cited logical fallacies and other dishonest tactics and pretend those are facts.
Who is really being dishonest?
ref: Intellectualy dishonest debate tactics
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