Even more hilarious: Rudy Phan's articles pirated

I've been busting Rudy Phan's lies since 2010. I busted so many, that Rudy Phan decided to hide his lies behind his "members only" wall.

So why would someone repost the lies and claim as their own, complete with pictures? Someone did.

But I busted all 4 reasons as lies back in December 2010.

Not only is this article a lie, it's a ZOMBIE lie.

TVI Express Dollars Hides Behind "Member" Wall

Rudy Phan got tired of me citing his articles and picking them apart, so all his "new" articles are now for members only. Try this link, says "members only".

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&u=http://www.tviexpressdollar.com/ini-yang-akan-membuat-tvi-express-indonesia-gulung-tikar-aktor-intelektual-dibelakang-kebangkrutan-tvi-express-indonesia/&ei=NdZ9TbGjHYiisAPR_KCPAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CFwQ7gEwBTjcAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTVI%2BExpress%26start%3D220%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1C1GPCK_enUS321US322%26tbs%3Dqdr:w%26prmd%3Divnsl

And he decided TVI Express is stupid, so he moved on to something else.

Well, ain't that just dandy for him?

Indonesia TVI Express site still claims TVI Express can be legal

Gee, they are really late...  But better late than never... They finally found news that says TVI Express Reps sent to PRISON in China.  But what did the guy said? He said you need to understand the model even though it is probably illegal! Is this guy CRAZY!?!?!

Attention to the Leader TVI Express!


According to one news from http://www.newssc.org/ Qilu Evening News China In a country until there is a case in jail for fraud has been indicted in the business of TVI Express!
That's how .. and indeed horrified, if it ever happen to you!
How is his solution?
As I discussed in an article before it, DO NOT BE AFRAID! FIXED HEART HEART!

Learn and Understand before you Promos! and for those of you who have not joined, I suggest, DO NOT JOIN, If Not Understand Business Model It ..!

But I reported on that back in Mid-2010! And it's among the newspaper articles I listed here!

http://hubpages.com/hub/News-Articles-Your-TVI-Express-Upline-will-never-show-you

And this guy actually is claiming that TVI Express's main business is selling hotel vouchers!

How many vouchers do you have to sell to make $10000? WAY TOO MANY.

Think about it. How much is a typical hotel stay? Let's say, $500 USD? How much do you think they pay out as commission to TVI Express? Maybe $50.

If you get 60% of that, that is $30 USD.

Gee, you have to sell, 333 trips like that to make $10000.

FORGET IT!

This guy is just as much CRAP as Rudy Phan.

End of Rudy Phan and TVIExpressDollar?

After a few posts, no sign of Rudy Phan on Kaskus, the Indonesian community forum, after Lunar New Year.

No sign of update on his website either. 

Is it the end? Who knows?

Rudy Phan claims He (and Indonesians) cannot be Responsible for TVI Express Treachery

Image via WikipediaPreviously an unconfirmed rumor spread on Kaskus Forum for Indonesians that TVI Express Indonesia is being called to Ministry of Trade to answer charges of pyramid scheme.

Guess what was Rudy Phan's response? Instead of defending TVI Express, he basically claimed the local leaders CANNOT be responsible unless critics find specific law stating so.

When we follow a business, yes we should know their rights and obligations. Now I want to ask, whether in the regulation TVI Express there is a statement saying that if TVI Express is bankrupt (either because of deceptive, etc..), Then leader should be responsible?

Or, you can research ANY MLM company registered in APLI, is there a statement that if the company went bankrupt (either because of deceptive, etc..), Then leadernya should be responsible?

Please answer the questions above.

If you can not answer the above questions, then you really do is incitement and defamation. Therefore, you must also dare to account for what you've said so far. Ok?

Gee, I thought earlier he said what happens in Indonesia is governed by Indonesian law?

So if Rudy Phan recruited downlines in Indonesia, that happened in Indonesia, yes? So why should Rudy Phan not be held responsible? If PT TVI Express (Indonesia) is declared a pyramid scheme / money game, why should Rudy Phan, Ms. Goernawan, and others NOT be held responsible?

Or should Rudy Phan be tried under INDIAN law or Cyprus law if TVI Express be declared illegal in Indonesia?

I can tell you now Cyprus law says TVI Express is a pyramid scheme. Cyprus has same law as European Union.

I can tell you now that Indian law ALSO says TVI Express is a pyramid scheme. In India it is called "Prize Chit and Money Circulation scheme Banning Law".

That is the danger of international scam... The different locals take the fall for the true mastermind behind the whole thing. And Rudy Phan is IMPLYING that the local leaders cannot be held responsible.

Well, Rudy Phan... if your local government cannot get their hands on the real mastermind... They sure can get their hands on YOU AND YOUR UPLINES.

Rudy Phan Claims He Understands English Better Than English-Speakers

On the day before Christmas, Rudy Phan posted yet again claims he understands more about TVI Express than TVI Express itself. And of course, he claims I don't understand TVI Express.

One of the most diligent to write and speak ill of TVI Express is a blog Kasey Chang (http://kschang.blogspot.com/).  He did not understand what it TVI Express product.  In fact, he could not understand what is meant by "You do not need to sell any products" (http://www.tviexpress.com/faq.php). [Note: So, people who can speak English is not necessarily able to understand what is written in English].

All that insult, only to cover up one fact: TVI Express itself states very clearly in its FAQ: "You do not need to sell any products" (but you do need to recruit at least two people, and you earn money by doing that"). So what does Rudy Phan say about this VERY OBVIOUS statement? Rudy Phan claims there is a product, and TVI Express is very clear about it.

What does Rudy Phan think "You do not need to sell any products" is supposed to mean? He claims it actually means "Yes, there is a product."

Does that even sound SANE to you?

Also, did he just insult tviexpress.com website? Is he claiming that he knows TVI Express business BETTER than TVI Express themselves? I believe he did. Is that delusion of gradeur, or just complete and total madness? You be the judge.

So what sort of company is Rudy Phan claiming TVI Express to be? He actually stated that TVI Express is an "EVENTS COMPANY".

The word "a package" I replace with " events “. The word "a package" I replace with "Events". Yes, this is where the key to understanding what TVI Express product correctly. Yes, this is WHERE the key to understanding what TVI Correctly Express product. Since I already explained at length the problem TVI Express business systems in other articles, on this occasion I would like to explain the position of product vouchers in this Express TVI business.

Since I already explained at length the problem of TVI Express Business systems in other articles, on this Occasion I would like to Explain the position of product vouchers in this Express TVI business.
 

There is every reason in the world for TVI to be categorized as an Events Company. We're everywhere in the world at any given time. From regionals in London to 500Ks meeting up together in Paris, our Corporate Events are the heart of our organization From regionals in London to 500Ks meeting up together in Paris, our Corporate Events are the heart of our organization. 

 http://www.tviexpress.com/worldwideevents.php

Okay, that quote is accurate, but clearly, Rudy Phan ignored all the OTHER indications in the TVI Express website, or even on the SAME WEBPAGE: 

I am TVI Conference -- Hear it from men and women who've been there, done that and succeeded in Network Marketing!
--http://www.tviexpress.com/worldwideevents.php

"Network Marketing — also Direct Selling or Multi Level Marketing is the most powerful system of free enterprise in our modern world, and it is the business model that TVI Express chose from the beginning."
-- http://www.tviexpress.com/financial.php

There are a dozen more. You can find them easily with Google search.

Furthermore, have you considered what are those events for? The Events are for existing members AND are also RECRUITMENT DRIVES.  Furthermore, this is ONLY FOR MEMBERS, and only SELECTED members, not all members. This is very clearly another part of the scam... dangle this "trip" in front of you, as a "bonus package" for your recruitment efforts. And sold nothing.

This clearly proves that

1) TVI Express is not even very clear on what it really is. It claims to be network marketing in one page, home-based business in another, and as Rudy Phan pointed out, "events company" in another.

2) Rudy Phan ignores evidence that does not fit his theories, even when it's OFFICIAL like from tviexpress.com, the OFFICIAL TVI Express website.

Do you really need to read the rest of his lies?

Rudy Phan makes another TVIExpressdollar.com lie, about jurisdiction of disputes

Image via WikipediaTVIExpressdollar.com, a website by Indonesian TVI Express distributor "Rudy Phan", continue to post bull**** on his website, adding more and more lies hoping to recruit more participants to make himself rich, even though local businesses, governments, and even the Islamic Council have declared TVI Express a "money game" (i.e. SCAM). Rudy Phan, of course, has a comeback for each and every one of those news of "doom"... Everybody else must be mistaken. Only he can be right.

Just recently he posted a blog entry about how TVI Express is not really subject to Indonesia law.

In the entry "Rules of the Game" he posted that...

"And all disputes governed by the laws of Cyprus and India. Platform or online business systems TVI Express builds upon the laws of Cyprus and India, therefore in case of dispute will be settled in accordance with the laws of Cyprus and India. It's not that Indonesian law does not apply. The problems that occurred in Indonesia and it will be completed nationwide by the laws of Indonesia. However, because businesses are global TVI Express (you can have many members in your network who are in the world), if there are problems that are global as well, then the law is the law used Cyprus and India."

First, is Rudy Phan a lawyer? Does he even explain just WHAT laws apply in cases regarding international disputes? No! He simply issues declarations, but he has no evidence that his declaration is true! 


Second, can he explain just exactly WHAT is considered national or International? No. It's a generic "problems that occur in Indonesia is governed by laws of Indonesia". However, he quickly followed with "because the TVI Express is global, if problems are global then you must use Cyprus and India law". 


But what exactly constitutes a "global problem"? Does he mean problems with other members residing in other countries? Or with TVI Express itself? Or something else entirely? I assure you it is NOT covered anywhere in the blog, and in any case he has NO authority to make such an interpretation at all (neither do I, but then I recognize my ignorance when it comes to law, and Rudy Phan does not!)


Third, Rudy Phan claims that if you register with eBay, you are subject to the laws of California, USA. However, there a couple problems with this comparison. Here's the policy in question:

"By using eBay (including eBay.com and its related sites, services and tools), you agree to the following terms with eBay Inc. and the general principles for the websites of our subsidiaries and international affiliates. If you reside outside of the United States, you are contracting with one of our international eBay companies: In countries within the European Union, your contract is with eBay Europe S.à r.l.; in all other countries, your contract is with eBay International AG. If you have any questions, please refer to our help section."

Noticed anything? eBay has at least three offices, and it was very clear on WHICH one you are doing business with. If you are in the US, you are doing business with eBay (USA). If you are in E.U, you are doing busienss with eBay Europe, and in other countries, eBay Intl AG. 


So what this really say is if you sue eBay and you're in the US, THEN you are subject to California law. 


If you are in UK, you are subject to BRITISH COURT JURISDICTION, according to ebay.co.uk  "Any claim, dispute or matter arising under or in connection with this Agreement shall be governed and construed in all respects by the laws of England and Wales. You and eBay both agree to submit to the non-exclusive jurisdiction of the English Courts." But your contract is still with eBay International AG (based in Switzerland)

Furthermore, Rudy Phan claims that eBay Indonesia makes you subject to laws of Singapore. So TVI Express can make you be subject to laws of Cyprus and India. That is a false comparison.

If you actually click on the website, id.ebay.com user agreements, it actually takes you to http://pages.ebay.com.sg/help/policies/user-agreement.html?_trksid=m40  (the Singaporean site, which is where eBay has the closest office) 

So this basically proves that Rudy Phan has no f**king clue what he's talking about. If you do business locally, you follow local business laws. You can't just say I do business here but if there's a problem you have to sue me somewhere else.

Furthermore, the bull**** about "disputes subject to India or Cyprus law is just that, bull****.

This is the same sort of bull**** TVI Express distributes claimed in Africa. They claim they have "global license", and local regulators are NOT amused, and it is charged as illegal scams in multiple countries in Africa.

Rudy Phan is Back With MORE Ridiculous Explanations For TVI Express Outrageous Behavior

Recently TVI Express is requiring all members to "verify" their account. This was previously reported on this blog as an obvious attempt to deny members of their vouchers and eWallet funds. Turns out, the truth is even MORE insidious than that.

According to TVIExpressDollar.com's blog, in order to "verify" your account you must upload A COPY OF YOUR GOVERNMENT ID TO TVI EXPRESS. In fact, you are also required to reveal your home address if it is not on your ID. See the screenshot above of the screen.

Frankly, this is such an outrageous violation of privacy I am surprised nobody had complained.

What's even more interesting is that TVI Express' "Privacy Policy" never did mention any thing about collecting ID. In fact, under "how we use personal information", it only says that payment information is protected. it never claimed to protect your PERSONAL information. It did not even promise to securely destroy such proof of ID after your account was verified. In fact, TVI Express can reveal your personal information to your upline as they see fit.

TVI Express is a Direct Sales Company and as such, we may provide personal information as needed to your personal TV Express Independent Associate or Upline Sponsor for orders and Associate enrolments.
-- http://www.tviexpress.com/privacy.php

Wow, ANOTHER mention that "TVI Express is a Direct Sales Company". Guess Rudy Phan don't care about that! He's still saying TVI Express is NOT Direct Sales / MLM!

So when Rudy Phan tells you to PLEASE verify your account, should you listen when he had previously lied on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS?

What was Rudy Phan's reason on WHY you should verify your account? So your upline don't steal your money! He claims that some uplines are stealing their downlines money. The downlines don't know Internet much, so the upline gets EVERYTHING, and when downline cycles out, the upline just use the information they already know (they typed it in, after all) and cash out all their eWallet!

Apparently this "verification" is supposed to stop this sort of abuse. However, consider this fact: who's going to upload the information? The upline (who knows Internet)! Who's going to do the verification? The upline! So this "verification" does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the "security" situation!

Rudy Phan, of course, want to compare TVI Express to a legitimate business, like Paypal (Indonesia). But TVI Express is NOT a bank. And Paypal IS a bank (it has banking license in Europe AND banking license in 33 out of 50 states in the US) So the comparison is NOT VALID.

So basically TVI Express is forcing you to give up MORE personal information for money you supposedly ALREADY earned, and Rudy Phan says "you really should do it to protect yourself" when in fact, it does NO SUCH THING.

Another lie busted.

TVIExpressDollar.com author Rudy Phan calls TVIExpress.com a liar AGAIN

Image via WikipediaPreviously we have documented that Rudy Phan and his website tviexpressdollar.com have lied so many times it's virtually filled with lies. In fact, it had even called tviexpress.com, the OFFICIAL website, a liar, by claiming TVI Express is NOT network marketing, and claim he knows TVI Express better than most. Clearly, his understanding does not extend to the website tviexpress.com, where it repeatedly referred to TVI Express as MLM or network marketing.

Now he had came up with yet another bull**** lie defaming tviexpress.com: He claims TVI Expres lied about "no limit income", that income is actually limited. He then cited some bull**** reasons and bull**** math to prove his own case.

Again, I don't read Indonesian, so I am following this through Google Translate.

As for how many IDs that allowed it is not restricted. Because there is no restriction, then potentially, the income can be obtained by a member is also "no limits". But actually, or in fact, the income earned by a member is limited as well.

So what is the limit? 

My point is this: someone who has dozens or even hundreds of ID that is a member TVI Express Business running count by the conventional trade, which means he put the final advantage in a single round of $ 10,000 that he can how. Originally profit "5 to 16 vouchers" (or 13 million to 33.8 million) alone, he will take. So, he did not expect to get $ 10,000 intact.

So his explanation is that because the guy must take some vouchers, he does NOT actually get $10000? Did he just admit that the vouchers are worthless?

But let's skip ahead... he then claims that in order to really succeed in TVI Express, you must have multiple ID's because one ID will only cycle out once or twice, but if you have multiple ID's, EACH will cycle out multiple times, thus you will earn more.

If we hear that a member TVI Express could get "$ 10,000 over and over again, continuously, without stopping", that's true. But, we need to realize that to achieve that "without stopping" were required of a true networker or multi ID a lot.  Do not dream to get a "non-stop" only from 1 ID only.

Did he have any PROOF of this theory? Nope. In fact, this explanation is completely against logic and against the way the TVI Express system is documented to work! 

To cycle out of express board, you need 14 other people to cycle you out.  Each ID is considered separately.
So to cycle out 2 separate IDs, you need 28 people. To cycle 3 ID's  you need 42. And so on and so forth.

So the MORE IDs you have, the MORE difficult it is to cycle out! If you fit ALL your recruits under a single ID you'll cycle faster than if you split them under multiple IDs!

In fact, the only reason to buy multiple ID's is to cycle your UPLINE out faster! That way he doesn't need to recruit so many people!

Think about it... If the business is this easy, why don't you just cycle yourself out? Let's work out the math:

But if you buy 15 memberships, yourself, then 14 downlines, you'd have spent 15*$250, or $3750.

But you only get back $250 in eWallet plus $250 in eVoucher code you can use for ANOTHER membership. So you have LOST $3250.

But your upline will love you. Because you had cycled him out to express board (he's just above you). 

Can you cycle yourself out of the express board too? Nope. You've cycled only 1 ID out to express board. TO cycle out the other 14, you need to spend another 14*3250, or 45500, to get $10000 back.

And again, your upline will love you, because you had cycled HIM out for his $10000 too. And he only had to buy his own $250 membership. 

So you lost $35500. The only way to MAKE money in TVI Express is you convince some OTHER people to join, so you can keep $10000 without spending more than $250. 

So in other words, the math proves that TVI Express is a pyramid scheme: you are getting rich off SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY.

Rise of the TVI Express Clones

TVI Express was very obviously a pyramid scheme, as it doesn't sell anything, and pays on recruiting. It is barely disguised, and only ignorant fools who are willing to bend the truth, such as Rudy Phan, and greed of people around the world have allowed it to run for more than 2 years.

Many clones have risen ready to attract various members either disillusioned with TVI Express' scam-y nature, or is forced to move to something else, hoping to recoup their losses.

I am NOT saying these are scams, but they are similar enough to TVI Express that you should be VERY VERY careful when you see THEIR names mentioned and you are being recruited.

* Pyxism -- Better Business Bureau profile on Pyxism, A- rating, which is quite good

* Bon Voyage 1000 -- possible compliance issues raised by CitizenCorps
EDIT: Another review by Behindmlm raises more similarities with TVI Express the scam

* DreamStyle Vacations -- okay review from CitizenCorps. However, keep in mind that CitizenCorp gave TVI Express a glowing review, only to retract it months later

* Diamond Holidays -- CitizenCorp says it is probably NOT compliant as it's just as shady as TVI Express

* Sunrise Travel Club -- ALERT STATUS on Citizen Corp, same as TVI Express, probably a scam

* Club Sea Breeze / LGN Prosperity -- CitizenCorp negative review, sounds shady already.
EDIT: The review by BehindMLM shows "some" promise, but possible legal problems as well

* World Ventures -- reviewed by ExpertMLMReview, probably legitimate, needs confirmation

* Royal Cruise Matrix -- negative review from CitizenCorp, "does not offer a real product"

NOTE: I would recommend taking any "positive" review from CitizenCorps with many grains of salt. CitizenCorps gave TVI Express a glowing review in 2009, only to retract it months later. Negative reviews, however, are generally worth reading.

NOTE2: I know I linked to CitizenCorps a lot, but there are few if any legitimate reviews of these places. When you do search online, you mainly find marketing articles by members. 

TVI Express Lies from around the World: Here's tviexpress.be

Image via WikipediaThe .be domain is Belgium, and their TVI Express website decided to add a few standard questions beyond what's on TVI Express main website, and it's pretty hilarious. As they basically pointed to black and claim it's white. 

I admit I don't read French, so I will generally comment on the meaning, and not pick on grammar or diction.

The actual FAQ in French is here, and Google translation is here.

1. What is really my business in TVI EXPRESS?

Your goal is simple. You just talk to your entourage ITV EXPRESS concept, its benefits but also its system of remuneration that is winning ....

So I get paid just by talking? Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. I'll jump ahead to one of their other questions, as it's related...

5. What should I do to increase (cycle) in the table (Traveller Board)?

The first thing you need to do is sponsor two (2) people who join ITV Opportunity Express under you. Secondly, you need to encourage and teach those two downline (people you have referred) to sponsor more people and duplicate the process. After these two simple steps you will make money even while you sleep!

And what do you GET when you cycle? You get PAID!

10. What do I receive when I cycle?

This club provides compensation in the form of commissions on the accession of new members, and the benefits they buy at the travel agency. You get the following committees, after exiting the respective tables:
1) You go out in Table 1 (Traveller Board): You receive $ 500 cash ($ 250 + a eVoucher a $ 250 value).
2) You go out in Table 2 (Express Board): You receive 10,000 dollars and re-entry in Table 2 (Express Board).

So you don't get paid for just talking. You get paid by RECRUITING other people. This website is already a liar. But is it legal? They claim it is!

18. By joining TVI EXPRESS, which is exactly the product I receive?

TVI Express is a private-club trips. Membership provides therefore entitled to access, unlimited in time, the travel agency Travel Express, which offers excellent prices on flights, holidays, cruises, car rentals, etc. ....

It is this product that is used to classify TVI Express in the category of network marketing, in full accordance with French and European laws.

Ah, here's an admission that TVI Express is "network marketing". Isn't it interesting that a bunch of TVI Express presidential associates, including Ms. Goernawan in Indonesia, actually told local media that TVI Express is NOT MLM? And what about Rudy Phan claims TVI Express is not only NOT MLM, it is BETTER than MLM, or network marketing?

You can infer two facts: 1) TVI Express allows their members to post bull**** lies anywhere,  and 2) not even the TVI Express members actually understand their system

However, they claim they are fully compliant with E.U laws. WHAT *does* E.U. say about pyramid scheme? It is outlawed under Fair Business Practices: Black List. (Link to PDF file). Here's the relevant excerpt:

pg 20, Chapter 4, "The Black List"

The commercial practices on the Black List are unfair in all circumstances and no case-by-case assessment against other provisions of the Directive is required. The list may only be modified at EU level, by revision of the Directive with the involvement of the European ParliamentMember States). and the Council (representatives from

• Pyramid schemes
“Establishing, operating or promoting a pyramid promotional scheme where a consumer gives consideration for the opportunity to receive compensation that is derived primarily from the introduction of other consumers into the scheme rather than from the sale or consumption of products.”

So if you substitute "TVI Express into the definition itself, you get:

Pyramid scheme: establishing, operating, or promoting a pyramid promotional scheme where a TVI Express distributor gives consideration (pay $250+fees) for the opportunity to receive compensation (the $250+$250, then $10000+whatever) that is derived primarily from the introduction of other consumers into the scheme (recruit at least two people, and teach them each to recruit two more), rather than from the sale or consumption of products ("you do not need to sell any products").

Is there anything that doesn't fit? Nope. TVI Express is INDEED a pyramid scheme under European Union law.  Thus, full compliance with law is yet ANOTHER LIE.

Indeed, they compounded it later with yet another Q&A

23. How can I sum up my work for TVI EXPRESS?

Advertising by word of mouth ITV EXPRESS and get only 2 godchildren is the assurance of winning at least double your investment and opening up a premium of $ 10 000.

Or reworded, "Talk about TVI Express, recruit two people, and get a chance to double your investment and get a chance to get up to $10000".

That's a pyramid scheme all right, since it sells nothing and recruits people. Yet they STILL claim they are compliant, because they claim to be selling travel. How do they explain their own FAQ item then?

3. I need to sell?

TVI Express is a unique e-commerce that allows you to build businesses around the world and it sits quietly in front of your computer. You just have to talk ITV EXPRESS and its benefits around.

What's even more hilarious, this question was colored in GRAY instead of black, almost as if they don't want people to really see this question and answer.

And finally, they have to audacity to link to a general internet scam explanation website, that explains various types of Internet scam (Nigerian, fake certified check, fake mystery shopper, Western Union pay, and so on), implying that TVI Express itself is not a scam!

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More Pathetic TVI Express Lies, This Time out of Bangladesh

Bangladesh is next to India, home of TVI Express, so it's no wonder it would fall under TVI Express spell sooner or later. Bangladesh has a relatively high poverty rate, but GDP is climbing rapid, creating a lot of lower middle class that is vulnerable to the sort of pitch that TVI Express and its scamming members are putting out.

Alexa says TVI Express is ranked 158th in Bangladeshi Internet traffic should tell you it's "red hot" in that country, esp. when TVI Express global ranking 3-month average dropped below 10000. (Click on Traffic Stats / Traffic Rank)

So what's a typical Bangladshi TVI Express ad? Here's one example, from a guy named Yakub, which basically posted spam all over:

Yakubs tvi can guide you To win tvi express board matrix of $10,000.
Tvi express board is infact a millionaire matrix. No other business
can offer such a great opportunity to be millionaire except tvi.
Investing tk.21,500 you can earn tk.43,000 within 1-2 months and
8,60,000 within 6 months. It is such an opportunity that many people
do not believe. If you also do not believe then you miss the
opportunity to be millionaire. If you believe you Win. If not, you
lose. To know more please visit ______ or call _______

WHOIS lookup on the domain shows the registrar is a Pronab Saha out of Dhaka, Bangladesh, registered at end of November, 2010. However, in some posts he wrote his name is Yakub Chowdhury. He claims to be actually living in Belgium.

A search for yakubstvi shows that he had spammed dozens of forums starting in December 2010. All the forums are about money, work at home, high-yield investment, MLM, and such subjects. If there's restriction he spam the newbie "intro" forum. If there's no restriction he spams multiple forums. He's been censored for spamming on multiple forums already.

And what does he have on his own website? He has a Gmail "receipt" send from TVI Express that says he has cycled out of the traveler board. Clearly he didn't read the FAQ... the money goes into his eWallet, then he had to pay $$$ to get it out.

And he clearly lied on many of his posts. Here's one he posted on HYIP forum...

In traditional TVI business you need to refer new members to get money. But in Yakubs TVI you do not need to refer member for money. M Yakub Chowdhury is a TVI Trainer in Bangladesh who has thousands of students increasing everyday. He will place new students under old students on first come first serve basis. It ensures everybody to get a guaranteed income by TVI business. Yakubs MLM is different than traditional MLM. Its not MLM its Yakubs MLM. to know details please contact _________ or visit __________

He claims that in TVI, you do NOT refer member for money. Didn't he read the TVI Express FAQ, where it says "to earn money, you have to recruit two people, and teach each of your to recruit two more people"?

And is that where Rudy Phan got the idea that TVI Express is "better" than MLM? Probably not. More like he got the idea from Rudy Phan and Goernawan. But that's perpetuating a lie, nonetheless.

More on TVI Express "spam linking"

Image via WikipediaIn order to make their articles look unique enough for multiple submissions, TVI Express shills are using article rewriters hoping to get past the plagiarism scanners, and since they all mention TVI Express or link to TVI Express, they drive up TVI Express' ratings such as Alexa ratings.

What is a rewriter, you ask? A rewriter uses regular grammar analysis and a thesaurus to rewrite the article so a casual inspection can't tell they are actually the same article. It's a program that you can rent or buy, basically.

For example:

Article A: CubanaNews.com

What happens when we compare the product which is indispensable by everybody as good as sparks lifestyle with the Revolutionary, Proven as good as Easy to Follow System?

You get the Company which is literally doubling any month with unusual enlargement worldwide, as good as life-changing resources sum by those receiving value of the momentum.

Welcome to Travel Ventures International, the subsequent Big Giant in the Direct Selling Industry.

As you can see, this is clearly copied and pasted from one of those article sites. Most of the code was left inside. Furthermore, it has very bad diction. Nobody say "with unusual enlargement worldwide" or "subsequent big giant". 

If you look at TVI Express website, you'll find this is copied from there, but rewritten. The ORIGINAL words were:

What happens when you match a product that is needed by everyone and sparks lifestyle with a Revolutionary, Proven and Easy to Follow System?

You get a Company that is literally doubling each month with extraordinary growth worldwide, and life-changing wealth created by those taking advantage of the momentum.

Welcome to Travel Ventures International, the next Big Giant in the Direct Selling Industry.

It is as if it was sent through Google Translate to some other language, then translated back. It has all the same keywords, but different enough so a simple plagiarism scanner may not detect it.

And it's keeping this zombie alive.  Then, there are the idiots who basically copied the ENTIRE webpage...

And then there's the real idiots such as Rudy Phan, who copied the ENTIRE TVI Express website.

More Indonesia TVI Express Ads That Never Shows The Whole Story

Image via WikipediaIndonesia is well over 80% Muslim, so TVI Express being declared "haram" (unclean) should have spread all over the islands by now. Yet there STILL are various TVI Express members in Indonesia posting various ads all over claiming TVI Express will make you a ton of money. Here's another example:  (My Comments will be in Blue and Times Roman)

TVI Express Indonesia

08 January 2011 03:41

TVI Express Indonesia Indeed Powerful Business. Capital is only Rp. 2.600.000  income of U.S. $ 10,000 TVI Express Giving Many times Repeated every week.

Yeah, but do they tell you it's a money game / pyramid scheme?

Soon joined by thousands of successful people in the world who earn U.S. $ 10,000 each week by joining TVI Express International. Huge opportunity for the Indonesian people because the new Express TVI entered Indonesia in January 2010, meaning that you are currently ranked the TOP Level.

So now it's a whole year later, and you can STILL be at top level? Mua-ha-ha! No, what you'll do is you'll join and MAKE YOUR UPLINE rich.

Spill Over Automaric system has been designed and prepared to provide the GUARANTEE Success for you. TVI System Expres current best. This system gives equal opportunity to all members to arrive at the top of SUCCESS

Oh, sure, in a PYRAMID system you ALL have chance to success? You all have a chance to be victims, that's what. To be successful, you need to attract your own band of suckers... downlines.

Another Rudy Phan / TVI Express Dollar lie busted: TVI Express *is* a pyramid scheme

Image via WikipediaRudy Phan loves to twist words and try to "explain" things when he has no qualifications to or directly contradict facts.

He said TVI Express is not MLM when TVIExpress.com website says it is MLM. 

He said TVI Express is not Ponzi scheme by utilizing 6 different false arguments. 

He said the border of London is flexible: as long as TVI Express is NEAR London it can claim to be IN London.

There are plenty more of his lies.

Today, we will bust another one of his lies, when he twisted words and claimed that Indonesia Direct Selling Association (APLI) doesn't know what they are talking about. 

The story basically goes as follows. APLI issued a warning on their website that says community must beware of pyramid schemes disguised as ("under the pretext of") MLM. 

So what was Rudy Phan's response? 

I have already stressed from the beginning, that TVI Express is NOT MLM.o, TVI Express is not a pyramid system and also not MLM. The words "under the pretext of MLM" It was assumed that the MLM is good while others (the pyramid) is bad.That applies to the pyramid system, but does not apply to TVI Express. Because, in my opinion, TVI Express system is better than MLM, therefore no need to impersonate TVI Express MLM.

So Rudy's explanation on WHY TVI Express is not a pyramid? "Because I said so. I say TVI Express is BETTER than MLM, so it doesn't need to pretend to be MLM."

This statement is DIRECTLY against statements on TVIExpress.com website where it repeatedly refer to itself as MLM or Network Marketing. Furthermore, this interpretation is purely Rudy Phan's invention. He has no evidence backing up this claim at all. You cannot "prove" an opinion with another opinion.

Dismantling yet ANOTHER Rudy Phan's Tviexpressdollar.com lie: TVI Express and Ponzi scheme

Image via WikipediaRudy Phan loves to redefine truth in order to somehow prop up TVI Express. Previously he had redefined borders of London, left out a largest expense in TVI Express and use that as evidence to "prove" TVI Express can pay lots of money, claim TVI Express is halal even though he has no qualifications, claim TVI Express is NOT MLM directly against tviexpress.com wordings, claim it only takes 8 people to cycle out when it takes 14, and much more. Today, we will bust ANOTHER one of his lies: he claims TVI Express is NOT a Ponzi scheme. His article can be found here.

So what are his reasons supporting his hypothesis that TVI Express is NOT a Ponzi Scheme?

First of all, we need to realize that this ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment scheme. While TVI Express is not an investment, but business network. Therefore, there are no guarantees and certainty the time when a person or when a turnover to $ 10,000. 

What Rudy Phan have done here is narrowed in on the words "fraudulent investment scheme", and claim "TVI Express is not investment!". Rudy Phan fails to notice that TVI Express operating model is later members funding earlier members, and that is the fundamental nature of a Ponzi scheme. Rudy Phan cannot disprove this, so he plays "word game" instead. 


Furthermore, in a business transaction, you do work, you get paid. That is nature of business. You can suffer losses, fail to collect debt, bad customers, product shrinkage, and other costs, but those can be anticipated. However, what Rudy Phan said here is when you join TVI Express, you may not actually make $10000 (even if you do everything they ask of you). Is he describing a lottery or a business?

Rehash: Why is TVI Express a Pyramid Scheme / Money Game?

Image via WikipediaSome people who enjoyed weasel explanations from their weasel uplines are somehow convinced that TVI Express is NOT a pyramid scheme or money game, as it's known in Asia. Here's explanation why TVI Express IS indeed a pyramid scheme.

First, what is a pyramid scheme? Instead of wiki definition, let's use an actual legal criteria, a court case against a pyramid scheme:

The Federal Trade Commission has established a test for determining what constitutes a pyramid scheme. Such contrivances are characterized by the payment by participants of money to the company in return for which they receive (1) the right to sell a product and (2) the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into the program rewards which are unrelated to
sale of the product to ultimate users
--US vs. Gold Unlimited, US 6th Circuit Court (1999), as cited from http://openjurist.org/177/f3d/472/united-states-v-gold-unlimited-inc

This definition will be worded different in different countries, but even in Indonesia the meaning is virtually identical:

Rudy Phan TVIExpressDollar 2010 Lies Summarized

TVIExpressDollar pirated main TVI Express site despite "do not copy" warning


TVIExpressDollar Tries to Fool all Indonesians with OLD pictures of TVI Express HQ

TVIExpressDollar 10 Reasons to Join are all Lies or Half-Truths

TVIExpressDollar counterpoint to Mr. Hamza's explanations are opinions with NO authority or evidence supporting them

TVIExpressDollar proves it can only debate unethically by attribution motives to critics

TVIExpressDollar / Rudy Phan claims TVI Express is Halal... Is he even a Muslim?

TVIExpressDollar insults main corporate office, implies it is hard and unyielding like golf ball (and local Indonesia TVI Express office is a soft stretchy ball)

TVIExpressDollar claims TVI Express can claim to be IN London because it is NEAR London, border is just "sort of"

TVIExpressDollar claims Critics Misinterpret Warren Buffet quote, realitity indicates otherwise

TVIExpressDollar claims tviexpress.com is a lie: TVI Express is NOT really MLM

TVIExpressDollar claims TVI Express can pay everybody, however he conveniently leaves out cost of trips altogether

Rudy Phan actually tried to debate me on my blog. I caught him twice with a bogus explanation, and he never came back.

TVI Express Indonesia DOES NOT SELL TRAVEL

According to their business license, which was supplied by Rudy Phan's TVIExpressDollar.com website, TVI Express Indonesia actually sells... wait for it:

"electronic goods, computers, telecommunications equipment, and consulting services."

As explained before, TVI Express Indonesia does NOT have a direct sales license, because they claim they don't need it, because they claim they are NOT MLM!  (Though TVIExpress.com says it is)


And they claim they don't sell travel. 


What sort of a fraud is this place?

TVIExpressdollar.com now is in formal violation of TVIExpress terms of service

TVIExpress.com does not want their stuff copied. Right on the bottom of every page it says "protected by Copyscape plagiarism scanner".

So what do you find on TVIExpressdollar.com, i.e. Rudy Phan's website? A full "mirror" of the tviexpress.com

http://tviexpressdollar.com/www.tviexpress.com/e-zine.html

Gee Rudy, I guess your membership should be terminated now!