TVI Express claims to be freedom fighters?

Well, maybe not TVI Express itself, but a couple Saudi TVI Express members with delusions of grandeur certainly think so:

First of all, MLM is haram in Saudi Arabia. Indeed, all forms of MLM is haram. So these guys just admitted they are not true Muslims, basically, by participating in haram business.

Second, "freedom fighters" is usually a fancy term for rebels... planning rebellion. (If you win, you're called freedom fighters. If you lose, you're called rebels). So what are these guys trying to do? Promoting a scam, or planning to overthrow the Wahhabi government of Saudi Arabia?

(Yes, I am joking. These folks can't even write a "pun" about "financial freedom" properly.)

Man in Saudi Arabia announce he is violating Saudi Law: promotes TVI Express scam

Apparently some folks in Saudi Arabia don't know that MLM and pyramid schemes are illegal in Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia.

NEWSFLASH: Saudi TVI Express members faked fatwa claiming TVI Express is allowed

According to http://sabq.org/sabq/user/news.do?section=5&id=35136  a senior official in Saudi Arabia was surprised to see his name attached to a fictional fatwa that had been cited to "permit" TVI Express and other multi-level marketing items, which is actually verboten under shariah law. The official denies ever making such a fatwa, was completely misunderstood, and so on and so forth.

In Saudi Arabia, such slander and false claims carries a VERY stiff penalty... Shariah law is VERY strict against spreading untruths.


Following was auto-translated by Google.

Absolute denies fatwa permitting network marketing emphasizes: Signature of a compound and a fake seal

Abdullah Barqawi - already - Riyadhdenied Sheikh Dr. Abdullah bin Mohammed Al-Mutlaq adviser at the Royal Court member of the senior scientists member of the Standing Committee for Academic Research and Fatwa, which traded a number of sites Web site of the advisory opinion of the forged and false attributed to His Excellency, allow network marketing, said Sheikh's absolute " above "the fatwa counterfeit adopted by a company working in the field of tourism called" tvi express ", shopping product on this fatwa signed compound and seal a fake is not related to Sheikh absolute nothing.and between Sheikh absolute that the fatwa fabricated included a "passport to buy the company's products mentioned above, and the rule of buying these products do not mind it not haraam, because the availability of terms of sale where .. to the latest came in the advisory opinion of the fraud and lies. " The Sheikh absolute he was not authorized for one on this opinion, and that these words came from someone who does not know the procedures fatwa Standing Committee, in particular that the Standing Committee has issued a fatwa (no. 22 935) and dated 14 March 1425 included the prohibition of pyramid marketing or networking, and His Excellency within the signatories. In conclusion, Sheikh absolute statement, saying: "So was clarification, the grabbed some hands this opinion false false to eat the people's wealth unlawfully, issued a statement of the right and the innocence of the edema and decisive for the material of evil. "Meanwhile, I learned " previously "that the British tourism company is expected to present their product catalog, on Wednesday in Jeddah, based on a false opinion.

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"Shine" is back with more bull**** explanations

"Shine", with an IP address that traced to Saudi Arabia, is back with more moronic comments, where he replies to questions about the legitimacy of TVI Express with "just look at our website".

The only proof that "Shine" have of ethical practice is "look at TVI Express website".

Anybody can write anything on a website. Didn't the entire world got punked when someone put up a website that claimed Internet Explorer users have lower IQ? That turned out to be a hoax. Website in itself is no proof.

Furthermore, TVI Express has been long documented to be a liar and obfuscator when it comes to "truth".

• Its owner was NEVER explained. 
• It removed its own claim that it is "headquartered in London, UK" with no explanation
• It never could explain why its office in UK and Cyprus are at addresses of virtual offices. 
• It cannot explain the "cease and desist" given to it in the US 
• It cannot explain why it was charged as pyramid scheme in Australia, 
• It cannot explain why its members were arrested in South Africa, 
• It cannot explain why its headquarters was raided in India by police
• It cannot explain why its business license was revoked in Indonesia, 
• and so on and so forth.

And you expect people to believe TVI Express actually has ethical conduct? Is it ethical to ignore all these problems and concerns?

The "stealing dreams" comment is even more inane, because in a pyramid scheme, in order to have your dream, you have to steal 200+ other people's dreams. (15 person pyramid, 2 of them, comes out to be 225, minus yourself, so 224 people, less if one or more buys multiple memberships) And to achieve their own dreams, they each have to steal 224 more people's dreams.

That's the scam part about pyramid schemes... instead of they scamming 200+ people, they have YOU scamming 200+ people. And because they're in India, when police come, they will come after YOU, not TVI Express. Police can't get to TVI Express, but they can get to you.

Furthermore, MLM and pyramid scheme are outlawed by Islam, and Indonesian Islamic Council on Ache already declared TVI Express a scam.

I suspect "shine" here is a foreign worker or immigrant to Saudi Arabia, probably from Philippines or Indonesia. Does Saudi Arabia still institute caning for haram practices, such as scamming people out of money?