Saturday, January 30, 2010

TVI GAT posts a rebuttal that's not a rebuttal

Previously I posted a comment about someone who will help you join TVI Express for $37. I had assumed that this "someone" will pay for the other $213 or whatever to join TVI Express.

Turns out the truth is even worse than I suspected. First, here's the comment (link to original comment)
The Nay Sayers are need to do more research, before they go spouting gibberish. The $37 membership is from TVI Global Assist Team. By cycling through the TVI (GAT) they pay your way into TVI Express by generating income by referring new members into TVI GAT.

Our Administrative Team is in regular contact with TVI Express Administration and are experiencing growing pains. we get regular updates of the TVI Express activities and upgrades as they become available.

Please do your research before you start slamming programs as scams!

TVI GAT is a Perfectly legitimate program and we have many members making money with TVI Express.
So I looked into it a little further, and they are NOT lying... That $37 actually does NOT get you into TVI Express... That gets you into TVIGAT (or TVI Global Assist Team). If you recruit enough members to fill up their "2x2 matrix", they'll pay your TVI Express dues and help you become a full-fledged TVI Express member. They will even let you BUY 2 more referrals at $20 each.

So what exactly is a "2 x 2 matrix"? It's basically the 8-ball scam without the last level of 8. (So you end at the level of 4). See this diagram to the right, linked from another suspicious site...

And what is an 8-ball scam, which is exactly the same as one of TVI Express's "board" or "matrix"? To borrow the picture from Wikipedia...

Yep, it's the same as 8-ball scam, without the bottommost layer. 

In other words, it's a alleged-scam TVI Express feeder program, which is in itself a junior version of double 8-ball scam that this alleged-scam TVI Express was using.

Sorry, but anybody that feed members to an alleged-scam, and even uses a similar pyramid system that doesn't sell anything, but only to recruit people, is guilty by association.

Or put it this way: IMHO, TVI GAT is really TVI Express Junior edition. 
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Saturday, January 23, 2010

Desperate TVI Express Members will PAY your dues to join up

2012Image by Gadget Virtuoso via Flickr
They hope to cycle out of the board and recoup their losses before the whole thing collapses like Los Angeles in the movie 2012. So they will PAY most of your $250 join up fee.

In fact, here's one that you only need to pay $37 to join. Presumably, s/he will pay the remaining $213.

When people are THAT desperate to recruit people to join a supposedly "greatest opportunity ever", you know something is very wrong...
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TVI Express endorser backpedals on endorsement

Someone tried to tell me that endorsed TVI Express wholeheartedly with a 5-star (out of 5) review via the comments. I told him that I don't trust a review site with no details on who the reviewers are, and the facts don't even match what the company FAQ says.

(Slight aside, if you click on his profile, you can see that the guy who left the comment is no longer on Blogger! Can any one say SHILL?)

Turns out that now decided that TVI Express *is* a scam after all, and has issued an alert regarding it. It has downgraded TVI Express down to 3 stars out of 5.

Okay,, maybe you are NOT a shill site after all. My apologies for calling you one earlier.