Wednesday, March 3, 2010

TVI Express cheer section says .gov.uk domain is a scam site

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Welcome to another episode of "TVI Express Madness", where we locate TVI Express members who are losing their grip on reality. Today's episode features a TVI Express cheerleader who cites nonexistent research to support his claim that TVI Express is NOT a scam, compounded by ability to point at a .gov.uk domain (yes, government website) and say it's a scammy website. 

Today's target is http://hubpages.com/hub/TVI-Express-Scam-Is-TVI-The-Biggest-Pyramid-Scam-Of-2009

The article, if you can even call it that, starts by giving a whole bunch of questions. First question:
"The first thing that had to be figured out was did TVI Express has any credibility and if they did where did it come from? "
The first answer it gave was:
"What research showed was that every single major travel company that TVI "claims" to be doing business with was actually backing them up 100%. That was a major green light because no international travel company would put their business and their reputation on the line for TVI if they weren't a legitimate company."
And where is this supposed "research"? WHAT major travel company(ies) are backing them up? What kind of f***ing nonsense is this? And it didn't even answer the question! What credibility? WHERE did it come from? Who's behind this "company"? Nothing!

If you mean Travelocity, there is NO relation there!

Then the author pulled the same bull**** with the second question:
"How in the heck are they able to pay out $10,000 to someone just for getting 2 measly people?"
And the answer is...
"When you come into TVI Express it costs $250. Then all you have to do is get two people to join under you and you're set. Once you have those two people you are then put into a revolving matrix which 'pushes' you up to the top position from the MASSIVE spillover. Once you cycle out of that position you make a commission.

The first commission is $500 and the second one is $10,000. And $10,000 again every time after that. Meaning you will receive 10K over and over each time you cycle out of what TVI Express calls the Express Board."
In other words, they just do! No reason needed or given!

At the end, is the obligatory link where the author links you to HIS OWN TVI Express recruitment site, where they hope to pull you in, by explaining to you how they pulled YOU into the trap.

So he gave all the right questions, absolutely irrelevant answers, and gives you a recruitment link. What utter bull****.

So what kind of excuse is the author providing in the feedback? Let's look at a few:
S Holmes says:
TVIexpress is an obvious pyramid scheme.

The "company" tries to pretend that the business is about selling travels, but if you read their web pages, in particular the FAQ ( http://www.tviexpress.com/faq.php ), it becomes obvious that the whole thing is about recruiting members who will pay in 250 US dollars, and the members are promised that they will thereafter receive money when other members are recruited; In other words a classic pyramid scheme, and clearly illegal according to the laws in most civilised countries in the world.

The company claims to be "a leading multinational conglomerate headquartered in London, United Kingdom", but you will not find it in the UK telephone book ( http://www.192.com/businesses/ ), and the company does not exist at the address stated on the web pages (office building Marble Arch Tower, 55 Bryanston Street, London). You can check this by doing an "advanced search" in the UK directory for businesses at 55 Bryanston Street in London.
Additionally, you will not find this "company" if you do a search in the UK company register ( http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ ).
So much for a "leading multinational conglomerate headquartered in London"!

One of the persons behind this pyramid scheme is named Ken Russo (see http://faithsloan.com/tag/join-tvi-express/ ).
This person Ken Russo has run, or has been pushing, a number of Ponzi- and pyramid schemes, which is easily seen if you google "Ken Russo" + scam.

Conclusion: An illegal pyramid scheme and guaranteed to collapse. STAY AWAY!!!
So, let's see what the response is:
Mr. S Holmes,
#1 - It's completely obvious that TVI Express is about selling travel packages to people for $250 dollars. That is how the company makes money in order to stay in business. However, there is no "promise" of payment there after. At that point it becomes your responsibility to sell travel packages to make money. Or in other words a typical direct selling business combined with Network Marketing and definitely NOT a scam.
Well, guess the author never read the TVI Express FAQ, which says "No, you don't need to sell anything." So why is a TVI member called a distributor, and what is being distributed, besides the membership? There is promise of payment... that mythical $10000 if you cycle out of two boards. And how *do* you cycle out? By recruiting. Enoughs aid.
#2 - The URLs you provided "claiming" that TVI Express doesn't have a physical presence are false and unconclusive. Furthermore the URLs you provided look like spammy/scammer sites themselves.
Well, let's see, go to www.192.com and see for yourself. Does that look like a spammy/scammer site to you? It looks like a typical YellowPage / WhitePage website to me. How about companieshouse.gov.uk? That's a GOVERNMENT site! Sheesh! So this guy is a) blind, b) lost grip with reality, or c) lying through his teeth, or d) all of the above. What's next? Whitehouse.gov a spammer site? 
#3 I don't know who the heck Ken Russo is but he is NOT running TVI Express nor is TVI Express a Scam. Even if you Google the query you suggested nothing relevant even comes up.
So with all of that said I appreciate your comment but I do not appreciate you posting false information on this page with no tangible evidence to back it up. So please take your TVI Express scam claiming thoughts elsewhere.
Okay, at least this is where he scores one point. Ken Russo is a known scammer who joins and promotes a variety of MLMs and scams. His name somehow got attached to TVI Express early on, because TVI Express have NO names listed ANYWHERE! 
This Hub Page is here for me to give legitimate answers for those who have serious questions and to see that they are successful in TVI Express.

Sorry, but with your lack of debating skills, and ability to point to a GOVERNMENT website and say it's a scam site, I'd say your forte is self-delusion, not success coaching.
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