TVI Express Fake Explanations Busted, part 1

Here are some fake explanations offered by TVI Express defenders, and why they are fake. 

There are two ways to bust a lie, either 1) show you that the logic is flawed by proving it's a logical fallacy, or 2) just show you the exception

Lie #1: I made money so it's not a scam

Actual EXAMPLE: "... I am currently heading for $10,000 hopeful i will reach there in 2 months if not less..Lets the voice spread propaganda and discourage Batswana [sic] from being invester…!"

WHY A LIE: This can be restated as follows

a) TVI Express paid me
b) (implied) scam don't pay
therefore
c) TVI Express can't be a scam

However, a pyramid scheme (which experts conclude that TVI Express indeed is one) will pay SOME participants. Thus, TVI Express CAN be a scam, because the implied observation "scam don't pay" is false. This is a fallacy of presumption. 

Lie #2: All businesses are pyramids

EXAMPLE: "Everything in life is a pyramid - every corporation has a top and a bottom and lot's of ding bats in between, the top makes more than the bottom and the middle man if he's lucky can pay off a credit card or two.  Mcdonalds, GM, Burger King, Macey's, you name it every business is a pyramid, the top get rich the bottom do not.  At least in TVI you are rewarded for your work. "

WHY A LIE: This can be restated as follows

a) TVI Express is a pyramid
b) Legitimate business are pyramid-shaped
therefore
c) TVI Express is legitimate

This is a "fallacy of equivocation". Being "pyramid-shaped" is NOT the same as being a "pyramid scheme".

Lie #3: You just don't understand us

EX: "(Praises TVI Express) By the way how can some people trust network marketing if they know nothing about it..?"

WHY A LIE: Restated as following

a) TVI Express is network marketing
b) Network marketing is widely misunderstood

therefore
c) TVI Express is widely misunderstood

This is a fallacy of presumption: TVI Express is presumed to be network marketing. While it repeated refers to itself as network marketing, its own FAQ states that "you don't need to sell any products", so it is not marketing any product to non-members. 

Lie #4: We do have a product! It's the XXXXXX!

The problem is, TVI Express distributors are known to be wildly inconsistent when it comes to "product". Some of the often named "product" includes:

* the "back office"

* the 7-day 6-night vacation you get upon joining

* alleged discount hotel vouchers

* some other offers that was unnamed

* some combination of the items named above

However, NONE of the above named items are real "product" (or even a service). Just the fact that a) TVI Express does not even have a "product" page, b) its FAQ states "you do not need to sell any products" and c) its own reps can't even tell what the product is  should tell you that there is no real product. 

Furthermore, for a MLM to be legal, the MLM must sell something to the consumer who are NOT in the company. Amway sells vitamins and other stuff to consumers. Nu Skin sells cosmetics to consumers. They do it through their team of distributors, and some distributors get a portion of their "downline" sales as commission, which is why it's called multi-level. So you have to get something tangible or worthwhile. 

The Back Office: not a product

Why? Back office is a SERVICE. While you can sell a service, the site behind the service is Travelocity.com (actually WCTravel, part of Travelocity network) thus the service is worth ZERO. 

The 7-day 6-night trip: not a product

Why? It's given to the member to redeem. It is not something that can be resold, as there's only ONE trip. Furthermore, you now have to pay $150 as "taxes and processing fees", something NEVER mentioned before. How much hotel and airline ticket are you getting to be worth $150 in taxes and fees? Furthermore, there are horror stories all over the world that people are getting stranded on the trips. So much so TVI Express offer to HALF-SIZE the trip (to 4-day 3-night) and call that an IMPROVEMENT in service. Also, the only list of available hotels officially from TVI Express shows all hotels IN INDIA! Thus, not a product. 

Discount hotel vouchers: not a product

There are a problem since nobody can tell what exactly is a "discount hotel voucher". If you are a consumer, do you pay a TVI Express rep for a 'discount coupon' you then use at a hotel, or do you pay a TVI Express rep to book a hotel for you, and get a piece of paper that take to a hotel that shows rooms are paid? 

If it's the former, that is not a product. Who's ever heard of PAYING for a discount? (Before you say "Costco", that's a buying club, with annual dues)

If it's the latter, that's legal, but then, back to Travelocity.com again... You can get that for FREE. Why go to TVI Express at all? And how do you know you're getting a good deal? And how do you know the rooms WILL be booked? 

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