Thursday, February 17, 2011

Partial Victory: GensanSales deleted TVI Express spam, but also my counterpoints

Coat of arms of the PhilippinesImage via WikipediaA bunch of TVI Express Spammers (in fact, two of them) spammed GensanSales, a Filipino "for sale" website (for General Santos, a city in Philipines). One spammed the "Misc", and the other "Jobs Offered".

I posted reply to both with choice commentaries, AND posted a topic says "DO NOT JOIN TVI EXPRESS: declared scam in multiple countries"  then posted all the links to the news websites I found about TVI Express. I put it in the Job category as well, as there's where the large spam is. (The other guy only put in  an announcement of a TVI Express Seminar)

As expected, one guy replied back with the standard excuses. Unfortunately the ADMIN had deleted the entire spam (and my replies), and moved my topic to the Misc. category. It is fair, as it IS off topic.

Then my links to the various informational websites, even one to Direct Selling Associations of Philippines website, was removed as well.

Thus, at best, this is a minor victory. The advertisement for an informational seminar is still there.

Here are the myths they perpetuated and tactics used: (you'll have to take my word for it, as the original thread was deleted)

* MYTH: we have business license, thus we are legal

FACT:  That doesn't prove you are OPERATING legally, it just means you done all the startup paperwork

Furthermore, study of the business license in Philippines shows that it is not supposed to issue memberships.

* MYTH: we have not been declared illegal, thus we are legal

FACT: That just proves that government had not acted on you... SO FAR. It doesn't mean you will forever be legal.

* EXCUSE: Why don't you come to the seminar where we will explain everything?


NO-EXCUSE: Why can't you explain it now? Is there some secret you only reveal at the seminar?

* EXCUSE: The info from CitizenCorps is really an attempt to promote Pyxism, thus it is not a fair portrayal of TVI Express.


NO-EXCUSE: But you don't have any facts to refute any of the statements about TVI Express, do you? Attack the facts, not the speaker.

* EXCUSE: Why are you so negative on TVI Express?

NO-EXCUSE: Do I need a reason? Attack the facts, not the speaker. 

The guy who wrote back with the lousy excuses complained to the board admin. I got a note back from the board admin that they are deleting the entire ad (including my choice replies) and moving my "warning" to "Misc." They also removed most of the links.
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