Thursday, February 3, 2011

Some "Classic" TVI Express Member Lies

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Introduction

This hub is number three in a series that collects lies and untruths told by various TVI Express distributors in support of TVI Express elsewhere on the Internet.

If you need some background on the TVI Express scam, please read TVI Express: an international scam first.
Is TVIscam.net trustworthy?

Based on the domain name tviscam.net, you would expect this website is about a scam called TVI. However, it is actually another recruiting site by a TVI Express Member. Why? The author states so
"If you can introduce two members then I highly recommend this business.... I do have multiple accounts in TVI Express business."
So if you recommend this business, why did you name the website "tviscam.net"? Shouldn't it be "tvinotscam.net"? Or is this intentional, just to capture some website traffic? You should already be weary, as it is sending a mixed message.

First Section = irrelevant

The first section is irrelevant to whether TVI Express is a scam or not. In fact, the author encourages you to download a TVI Express powerpoint presentation for some background info. That is not wrong, or right, it is background info. Just keep in mind the source... Remember, you are supposed to be skeptical of anything that is new. It's called "due diligence".

You should also be weary because this website is called TVIscam, yet the first thing they tell you is to have you read some TVI Express promotional material i.e. propaganda, that's a weird way to talk about a scam.
Then the author claimed he joined TVI Express because he believes it is not a scam, but provided no evidence. Not a very effective argument there.
Second section = fair, but a bit short
 
The second section, which discusses the parts author did NOT like about TVI Express, The three reasons listed, are valid, if a bit under-emphasized. The vacation redemption problem is actually much much worse than the author stated, but that is for another article.

This section is more guilty of omission than outright lie.

Third section = big problems

The third section is where it all falls apart, as the "good things" about TVI Express simply don't add up when you actually think about them.
1. They pay on time every time.
They do? Is this based on your personal experience, or word of your upline / team members? Is that "paid" into your eWallet, or actually into your bank account? (ANSWER: It's into an eWallet, which is not guaranteed by anybody)
2. No ongoing fee. Only the initial $250 joining fee.
This is valid, but it could also be a sign of pyramid scheme.
3. Truly receiving benefits from the sales done by up-line members. I am constantly moving up thanks to sales done by others.
It says in the TVI Express FAQ that "you don't need to sell any product". The only thing required to sell is membership, which is recruiting. So if you are moving up the board by other people recruiting for you... that makes this a PYRAMID SCHEME.
4. Easy to promote.
But what are you telling the people? That it's easy to make $10000 by recruiting people? Hmmm...
5. The best compensation plan I have ever come-across. There is an opportunity to earn $10,000 or more a week.
Ah, the "hardsell", by dangling the dollar signs in front of you. Just HOW do you earn that $10000? By recruiting, and teaching others to recruit, not by any sale of product or service. That's a pyramid scheme.
I don't need to quote the pyramid scheme definition again, do I?

Final Section = another warning sign

he final section is an endorsement with an explanation, but actually provided the proof that the whole thing is a pyramid scheme:
If you can introduce two members then I highly recommend this business. Two members means you will receive $250 cash and a new-member voucher (worth $250) for you to join as another member or you can sell it to another person who is willing to join the business. I do have multiple accounts in TVI Express business.
What the author did NOT explain is when you introduce two people, that's actually NOT it. They actually have to put 12 more people under themselves for you to get your $250 + $250 eVoucher.

Furthermore, that $250 is NOT cash, but an amount in your "eWallet" which is just a number on the TVI Express website.

One more item... that $250+$250 eVoucher proves the whole thing is a pyramid scheme, also known as "endless chain". Let me illustrate this by using the Endless Chain law as defined by California Penal Code (other laws are similar)
CA Penal Code 327: Endless Chain Scheme

"Every person who contrives, prepares, sets up, proposes, operates any endless chain is guilty of a misdemeanor. As used in this section, an 'endless chain' means any scheme for the disposal or distribution of property whereby a participant pays a valuable consideration for the chance to receive compensation for introducing one or more additional persons into participation in the scheme or for the chance to receive compensation when a person introduced by the participant introduces a new participant. Compensation, as used in this section, does not mean or include payment based upon sales made to persons who are not participants in the scheme and who are not purchasing in order to participate in the scheme."
Or to restate it in easier to understand form...
if a scheme has
1) Participant pay a joining fee, in order to qualify for future compensation
2) The future compensation is "earned" by recruiting more participants, or when those participants recruit even more participants
then
3) It is an "endless chain" scam
TVI Express members earn $250 and $250 eVoucher by recruiting two people, and teach each of them to recruit more people, until the participant got 14 downlines. This makes the participant "cycle out" of the board, getting him that $250 / $250. This fits the endless chain scam definition because the participant have to pay $250 to get in, and is paid $250+$250 eVoucher when the 1-2-4-8 pyramid, or 2x3 "matrix" is filled.
So essentially, the author presented all the elements of a pyramid scheme: pay to join, recruit at least two more, get paid when enough people have joined (beyond the two), yet told you it is not scam.

Conclusion = FAIL

The author at least made an attempt to sound fair, but that only make the result even MORE unethical, as he basically completely ignored the facts that pointed at a pyramid scheme, because it was separated, but if you put them in order as follows:

a) $250 one-time fee
b) recruit two people
c) move up the board while people you recruited recruit some more people
d) get paid $250+$250 (when the pyramid fills) then get qualified for $10000 (fill another pyramid)

That is a pyramid scheme, no doubt about it.

The author also failed to consider the fact that there is no sales, just recruiting.He referred to sales, but cannot even point out the product, and the only product TVI Express requires member to sell is itself.

Thus, this article, while sounding somewhat fair, is actually evidence for a pyramid scheme. Yet the author failed to recognize the signs, and cheerily tell you to join in, which just makes the whole thing even MORE ironic, and devious.

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