Mind you, I already gave him links to my "News Your TVI Express Upline will never tell you", where TVI Express members were arrested, TVI Express denounced as pyramid scheme, and so on and so forth.
Yet he says that only individual members of TVI Express was prosecuted as criminals, not TVI Express itself.
For a moment, I was going to retort "What is the difference?!" Then I realized he's trying to use the "few bad apples" argument, that a few individuals can abuse the system, but the system itself, he will claim, is innocent. Fortunately, I do have references pointing the other way:
The Australia Federal Court says TVI Express is a pyramid scheme:
...But Justice Nicholas found there was "no evidence" that any member had "obtained the ... vacation or a companion flight". In his judgment he said: "I am satisfied that the TVI Express System was a pyramid-selling scheme".
It's amazing what sort of contrived excuses will TVI Express supporters come up with to "debate" whether TVI Express is a scam... However, this is one of the 13 tricks I've identified earlier: "It's the individual's fault, because it cannot be the system's fault". Seen it before, albeit not to this extent. Usually it's used as post-facto justification, like: blame all my downlines for the failure. However, this one use it to DENY that TVI Express was a scam at all. Hah!
If it's not a scam, then it wouldn't have been banned in China, Namibia, Lesotho, USA, and so on.