Bangaladeshi TVI Express Spammer is back with a blog

Apparently he's not satisfied with a website, he's back with a Wordpress blog that says even less.

He's in such a hurry, the "about me" page is still using the standard template words.

And all this does is "call me".

And here he specifically says "refer two people", even though earlier he wrote that you do NOT refer any people in TVI Express.

TVI Express: where liars can't even keep their lies consistent!

Funny Indonesia TVI Express "slogan"

Cover via AmazonTVI Express Indonesia have a member who opened a Facebook presense called "TVI Express Celebrity". So what sort of slogan do they have?

Bertindak tanpa terlalu banyak
berpikir. Bertindak dengan insting dan intuisi.
Jangan percaya kepada akuntan anda kalau mau memulai bisnis.
Lakukan saja.

And the English translation is...

Acting without too much thinking. 
Acting by instinct and intuition.
Do not trust your accountant if you want to start a business.
Just do it.

And who did they claim the quotes came from? Sir Richard Branson.  However, ALL FOUR QUOTES HAVE PROBLEMS.

Sir Richard Branson has a book called "Screw it, let's do it!" Inside, the first chapter is called "Just Do it", but the quote was taken out of context. The chapter in the book actually says if you want to do it, then figure out a way to do it. Learn how to do it. Find a legal way to do it. And so on. Sir Richard Branson never said to jump in blindly and ignore any "due diligence".

Furthermore, all of the other quotes are either wrongful attributions or misquotes. The quote about the accountants? it's actually

I never get the accountants in before I start up a business. It's done on gut feeling, especially if I can see that they are taking the mickey out of the consumer.

There are no quotes by Sir Richard Branson that I can find on the remaining two alleged quotes. Yet they sound a lot like the bull**** I found earlier on TVI Express Indonesia websites where the various TVI Express leaders tell members (who read concerns on websites such as this blog here) to ignore all criticisms and just jump right in when "momentum is good".

Conclusion: TVI Express Indonesia are using celebrity quotes, chopping them, and wrongfully attributing them in order to promote a scam.  Just like TVI Express itself. That's why you don't find Sir Richard Branson mentioned on TVI Express website any more.

Interesting: Solid Trust Pay is a Script-Kiddie Site? (UPDATED: not quite, no longer associated with TVI Express)

Image via WikipediaAccording to a post on Web of Trust (WOT), Solid Trust Pay, one of the processors used by TVI Express, is actually a packaged script offered by PlxWebDev / PayArk

I compared the "user agreement" and they are virtually identical. Here are the comparisons

From the "demo" site on plxwebdev

Buyer Beware - ePAY Online assumes absolutely no responsibility for any purchases made through the ePAY Online system. At any time you join any Income Opportunity or MLM program, or Matrix Website or purchase a product or service you are doing so at your own risk and that by signing up and joining ePAY Online you do hearby agree in FULL that you release ePAY Online and all its affiliates and officers, employees, members and owners from ANY loss you may incur either by using this service...

And from the SolidTrustPay.com website...

Buyer Beware - SolidTrust Pay assumes absolutely no responsibility for any purchases made or received through the system. At any time you join, or offer, any Income Opportunity or MLM program, or Matrix Website, purchase or offer a product or service, you are doing so at your own risk and that by signing up and joining you do hearby agree in FULL that you release SolidTrust Pay and all its affiliates and officers, employees, members and owners from ANY loss you may incur either by using this service ...

Even the misspelled "hearby" is there, still misspelled.  (It should be "hereby")

Conclusion: SolidTrust Pay is not any more trustworthy than your average PHP website. It has no reputation, nor even a real support team behind it. In fact, does it even have a banking license to hold people's money? Guess that's why STP is based in CANADA instead of the US. However, is that even legal? A "real" payment processor such as VersaPay is partnered with Chase Bank and is certified with Visa/Mastercard. STP displays Visa/Mastercard logo, but it's not linked, and apparently has no actual relationship with any real bank or VISA and Mastercard.

Before you ask, Yes, Paypal *does* have a Banking License in Europe, and is licensed for banking in 28 of the 50 states in the US, and the other states either don't need one or is satisfied with out-of-state banking license.

Even TVI Express' payment processor is shady...

UPDATE 15-JAN-2011 -- unconfirmed comment stated that "Solid Trust Pay" has disassociated with TVI Express since April 2009, and the script was indeed "founded" on plxWebDev scripts. You can see the actual comments below.

UPDATE 01-FEB-2011 -- authenticity of comment was confirmed by STP Support.  See 01-FEB-2011 blog entry.

Funny TVI Express 2011 announcements: clearly it doesn't read the news

South Africa -- Image via WikipediaApparently TVI Express itself does not read the news either. In an announcement posted on 08-JAN-2011 it claims it is expanding into South Africa.

...the fresh and bright 2011 is looking forward to unfold its conventional legacy with 4 international launches in its first quarter itself in Philippines, South Africa, Bangladesh and Kazakhstan respectively. 

However, keep in mind that

1) TVI Express is already "belly up" in South Africa when Tarun Trikha apparently abandoned all local members to their fate with the authorities, as reported by "New Age" of South Africa.

2) All Bangladeshi members seem to do is spam the Internet.

3) So-called Kazakhstan launch is in the middle of nowhere, not to mention TVI Express is already under investigation in Tajikstan and Georgia, two of its neighbors. Besides, the launch was supposed to have happened back in December 2010. Based on the history of delays from TVI Express (its Indian HQ was delayed almost a year) this may not happen at all.

Guess that leaves the Phillipines. However, given that TVI Express is already illegal in China since July 2009, investigated in India, and so on, how long do you think they will last in the Phillipines?

More Pathetic TVI Express Lies, This Time out of Bangladesh

Bangladesh is next to India, home of TVI Express, so it's no wonder it would fall under TVI Express spell sooner or later. Bangladesh has a relatively high poverty rate, but GDP is climbing rapid, creating a lot of lower middle class that is vulnerable to the sort of pitch that TVI Express and its scamming members are putting out.

Alexa says TVI Express is ranked 158th in Bangladeshi Internet traffic should tell you it's "red hot" in that country, esp. when TVI Express global ranking 3-month average dropped below 10000. (Click on Traffic Stats / Traffic Rank)

So what's a typical Bangladshi TVI Express ad? Here's one example, from a guy named Yakub, which basically posted spam all over:

Yakubs tvi can guide you To win tvi express board matrix of $10,000.
Tvi express board is infact a millionaire matrix. No other business
can offer such a great opportunity to be millionaire except tvi.
Investing tk.21,500 you can earn tk.43,000 within 1-2 months and
8,60,000 within 6 months. It is such an opportunity that many people
do not believe. If you also do not believe then you miss the
opportunity to be millionaire. If you believe you Win. If not, you
lose. To know more please visit ______ or call _______

WHOIS lookup on the domain shows the registrar is a Pronab Saha out of Dhaka, Bangladesh, registered at end of November, 2010. However, in some posts he wrote his name is Yakub Chowdhury. He claims to be actually living in Belgium.

A search for yakubstvi shows that he had spammed dozens of forums starting in December 2010. All the forums are about money, work at home, high-yield investment, MLM, and such subjects. If there's restriction he spam the newbie "intro" forum. If there's no restriction he spams multiple forums. He's been censored for spamming on multiple forums already.

And what does he have on his own website? He has a Gmail "receipt" send from TVI Express that says he has cycled out of the traveler board. Clearly he didn't read the FAQ... the money goes into his eWallet, then he had to pay $$$ to get it out.

And he clearly lied on many of his posts. Here's one he posted on HYIP forum...

In traditional TVI business you need to refer new members to get money. But in Yakubs TVI you do not need to refer member for money. M Yakub Chowdhury is a TVI Trainer in Bangladesh who has thousands of students increasing everyday. He will place new students under old students on first come first serve basis. It ensures everybody to get a guaranteed income by TVI business. Yakubs MLM is different than traditional MLM. Its not MLM its Yakubs MLM. to know details please contact _________ or visit __________

He claims that in TVI, you do NOT refer member for money. Didn't he read the TVI Express FAQ, where it says "to earn money, you have to recruit two people, and teach each of your to recruit two more people"?

And is that where Rudy Phan got the idea that TVI Express is "better" than MLM? Probably not. More like he got the idea from Rudy Phan and Goernawan. But that's perpetuating a lie, nonetheless.

Someone Did Not Get the Message In Australia Either

Back in May 2010 Australia's ACCC consumer protection agency went after TVI Team Oz, 3 fraudsters who went after folks in Australia and New Zealand, by advertising on Facebook and other places. It's old news, and most Aussie TVI Express participants have long since moved on.

So it's rather amusing to find someone who didn't get the news... and decided to reprint a "TVI Express Opportunity" article for Australians, in January 2011

It's also tied into this TVI Express link spamming thing... Idiots who copy old TVI Express "cheerleading" articles that are out of date, misleading, and often complete lies, and republish them to pump up TVI Express's Alexa ratings.

More on TVI Express "spam linking"

Image via WikipediaIn order to make their articles look unique enough for multiple submissions, TVI Express shills are using article rewriters hoping to get past the plagiarism scanners, and since they all mention TVI Express or link to TVI Express, they drive up TVI Express' ratings such as Alexa ratings.

What is a rewriter, you ask? A rewriter uses regular grammar analysis and a thesaurus to rewrite the article so a casual inspection can't tell they are actually the same article. It's a program that you can rent or buy, basically.

For example:

Article A: CubanaNews.com

What happens when we compare the product which is indispensable by everybody as good as sparks lifestyle with the Revolutionary, Proven as good as Easy to Follow System?

You get the Company which is literally doubling any month with unusual enlargement worldwide, as good as life-changing resources sum by those receiving value of the momentum.

Welcome to Travel Ventures International, the subsequent Big Giant in the Direct Selling Industry.

As you can see, this is clearly copied and pasted from one of those article sites. Most of the code was left inside. Furthermore, it has very bad diction. Nobody say "with unusual enlargement worldwide" or "subsequent big giant". 

If you look at TVI Express website, you'll find this is copied from there, but rewritten. The ORIGINAL words were:

What happens when you match a product that is needed by everyone and sparks lifestyle with a Revolutionary, Proven and Easy to Follow System?

You get a Company that is literally doubling each month with extraordinary growth worldwide, and life-changing wealth created by those taking advantage of the momentum.

Welcome to Travel Ventures International, the next Big Giant in the Direct Selling Industry.

It is as if it was sent through Google Translate to some other language, then translated back. It has all the same keywords, but different enough so a simple plagiarism scanner may not detect it.

And it's keeping this zombie alive.  Then, there are the idiots who basically copied the ENTIRE webpage...

And then there's the real idiots such as Rudy Phan, who copied the ENTIRE TVI Express website.

TVI Express: Who is Robert Schroy?

When I looked up information on Pat Dejour, a name appeared next to him: Robert Schroy. Who was that, I wonder? So I searched a bit. Found this list on an Indonesia TVI Express website. It's a list of all terminated TVI Express members, allegedly. It was published in September 2010. Other than a generic "illegal practices" there was no detail on why, or eve the date they were terminated.

What is really interesting is there was no English announcement, except a single post on Facebook (which was mentioned before). The list was kept VERY private. Frankly the only reason to keep the list only to members is to convince the members that it cannot be TVI Express's fault, but that is my opinion.

Any way... So who is Robert Schroy? Mr. Schroy was definitely one of the earlier members of TVI Express. According to some marketing calls he was referred to as the 200K man in late 2009, and 300K earner in Jan 2010. However, it was stated he's based in California, unlike the TVI Express announcement (posted by Facebook) that said he's Florida.

So he definitely was a high-flier in TVI Express. However, he seem to have made no blogs or websites that can be found though Google. There also appears to be no photo of him.

Coincidentally, a "Robert Schroy" of Illinois was charged in both New Jersey and Federal courts for defrauding a church. As there are no photos, proper ID cannot be made.

So what is the conclusion? Insufficient information, other than TVI Express is as secretive as ever. Why keep the list of terminated members "secret"? The whole idea of terminating members is to make it a public spectacle so nobody will try to do whatever it was they did. Keeping the list secret only proves TVI Express does NOT care about its public image at all.

More Indonesia TVI Express Ads That Never Shows The Whole Story

Image via WikipediaIndonesia is well over 80% Muslim, so TVI Express being declared "haram" (unclean) should have spread all over the islands by now. Yet there STILL are various TVI Express members in Indonesia posting various ads all over claiming TVI Express will make you a ton of money. Here's another example:  (My Comments will be in Blue and Times Roman)

TVI Express Indonesia

08 January 2011 03:41

TVI Express Indonesia Indeed Powerful Business. Capital is only Rp. 2.600.000  income of U.S. $ 10,000 TVI Express Giving Many times Repeated every week.

Yeah, but do they tell you it's a money game / pyramid scheme?

Soon joined by thousands of successful people in the world who earn U.S. $ 10,000 each week by joining TVI Express International. Huge opportunity for the Indonesian people because the new Express TVI entered Indonesia in January 2010, meaning that you are currently ranked the TOP Level.

So now it's a whole year later, and you can STILL be at top level? Mua-ha-ha! No, what you'll do is you'll join and MAKE YOUR UPLINE rich.

Spill Over Automaric system has been designed and prepared to provide the GUARANTEE Success for you. TVI System Expres current best. This system gives equal opportunity to all members to arrive at the top of SUCCESS

Oh, sure, in a PYRAMID system you ALL have chance to success? You all have a chance to be victims, that's what. To be successful, you need to attract your own band of suckers... downlines.

More Idiotic TVI Express Spam Linking by Stale Info Recycling

Ever wonder why a scam such as TVI Express kept their Alexa rating about 10000? Here's one explanation: people either knowingly or unknowinly recycling old outdated "happy" reviews of TVI Express, usually months or even a year out of date.

Here is another example: Some thing was posted on BestHotelDeals.biz about TVI Express just the other day.

If you read the link, it's basically copy-and-paste from one of those online article archives. At least the poster was nice enough to keep the author's name. The article, on page 2, says it was written in September 2009. As it is now 2011, it is OVER A YEAR OUT OF DATE. Search through Google confirms the article first appeared in September 2009.

Search through Google also shows Danhart.info  and marketingmasterdan.blogspot.com (i.e. danhartblog.info).

So does Dan mention TVI Express in his blog or on his website? Exactly ONCE: March 2009, and merely reposted the "intro" video in his blog. AND his blog had not been updated since April 2010. Same with his info website, which is just a "capture page" that wants you to give him your email so he can send you information.

Both domains are registered in late 2009 (one in September, one in December), during the US TVI Frenzy.


Conclusion: Dan had quit the business, despite being a "successful entrepreneur". It appears that Mr. Hart also runs a charity, good luck to that.

Back to TVI Express: their Alexa ratings remain high because idiots keep reposting outdated **** even after the original poster had long since quit and moved on. Whether those idiots knowingly do so is not important.